This podcast should have been posted about 6 months ago, but the filmmaker and I finally got together to talk about this important story. Every firefighter, every family member and every friend of a firefighter and anyone holding a leadership position in any organization should watch this film. There is so much to learn about leadership, communications, being present in the workplace and speaking up. And in this documentary, you’ll hear the tragic details from those who survived the blow-up. The Dude fire is now 35 years old. But LCES is still used today on wildland fires. And LCES came from the Dude Fire. This fire killed 6 firefighters. It burned more than 60 homes. And it deserves your attention. Please listen to this podcast, then watch the movie. Thanks.